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The following text was submitted by Eddie from Sweden and the links at the bottom come from OJAS in the USA.
Welcome to any newcomers who find this thread, for Christ's sake.. READ THIS!
...and save yourself a lot of homework and/or grief
SOME GENERAL INFO ABOUT RUSSIAN GIRLS, AND HOW TO SPOT RUSSIAN DATING SCAMMERS:
The vast majority of Russian dating scammers are not women at all, but actually men, mostly working in small gangs in or around Yoshkar Ola, in Mari El republic, sometimes in Chuvashia. It's virtually guaranteed that the girls in these scam pics aren't involved because the scammers steal their pics from the internet or pay unsuspecting friends for them, or buy and exchange them on scammer websites. (Once a scammer even admitted to me that he stole all his pics from army-of-brides.com and mamba.ru ).
Most scammers are VERY lazy and looking for quick cash. They use email extractor programs to get your mail addresses (if you don't have a profile on a dating site, that is)...
http://www.webextractor.com/ and copied form mails and spam programs on automatic reply, very often the BAT!, which can personalize small parts of each letter.
They mostly won't read your letters until after the money letter because they don't have time, ie because they're scamming, or trying to scam, as many guys as they can (economies of scale).....and also because they're semi-literate losers who can't speak much English anyway. IN OTHER WORDS, you can write any crap in your replies and they won't react, they're only interested when they're curious to know if you've taken the bait after the money letter. A girl is only involved either occasionally to phone a guy up, especially if he's suspicious, or to pick up the loot at Western Union, with a false ID of course!
More recently, the majority of Russian scammers have started using proxy servers or forged IPs to hide their locations so ALL YOU REALLY NEED TO DO IS TRACE THEIR IP ADDRESS!
So....if several or more of the following scam signs apply to your Boris (the beautiful Russian 'girl' that is supposedly writing to you), resist the temptation to help 'the poor girl' by sending her money. You're really writing to a sleazy Russian guy sitting in a smoky room in Yoshkar Ola, with a bunch of other sleazy guys spamming indiscriminately on laptops .
'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :))) They will often reply to your mails, but rarely take the initiative. It's the man who does the chasing in Russia. Plus, if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!
doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter). Her replies should be exactly that...replies...however short they are.
girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls as well.
girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, terrorism, it's her dream to come to your country, etc). ALL BULLSHIT!! Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first. Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc. They should usually want to meet you first before they gallivant off to your country.
scammers rarely have children, but most of the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did (except for Moscow career girls). It's often the reason that they're looking for a partner.
photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important to most Russian women (especially Moscow career girls). They're hardly likely to send a half-naked photo to a virtual stranger on the internet. Think about it!
most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes quite easy to recognise (overuse?). Again a scammer admitted to me that low-quality photos are a key factor in his scamming. I found this curious because a serious Russian girl who's looking for a partner very often saves up and goes to a professional to have a studio set done (often corny ones posing with a chair etc), and/or borrows a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). My fiancée did it. Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore, and if they seriously want to leave Russia, they know that posting cheap pics will only attract cheap guys.
GIRL CLAIMS NOT TO HAVE A MOBILE PHONE. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s sake.....do you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a Megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her whenever you want. On the other hand, not having a landline or a desktop/laptop is very common.
very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish translation)
writes long letters everyday in English. How does she have time to write those long letters if she's working? And if she doesn't have a job, how can she afford a computer + internet connection? Even Internet cafés are relatively expensive in Russia. Anyway, most Russians outside Moscow can hardly speak a word of English. (What's the point of finding a girl you can't communicate with, at least on a basic level?) PLUS.. if she can't speak English, why does she have a non-cyrillic email account like gmail or yahoo? Most real Russians use mail.ru, yandex.ru or inbox.ru....though hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger (preferably with a webcam).
falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego, kind heart, loneliness or lust pull the wool over your eyes. She doesn't really know you. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows. As I mentioned, Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc.
uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam.
THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO IS TRACE HER IP ADDRESS. In fact, it's the only thing you need to do really.
MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:
she asks for money for a tourist 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, ignoring the fact that IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE, POOR RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY!
Most Russian girls outside Moscow and St Petersburg are quite poor, and immigration control would consider them an overstay risk. They would never let be let into your country without a healthy bank account.
She can get a SPONSORED visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. She also needs a job in Russia, a letter from her employer and insurance. All of these documents she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait about 10 working days. These are the rules for the Schengen countries anyway...the USA and Canada are almost as, if not more, complicated. Anyway, a normal TOURIST visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy Russian girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Anyway, no respectable Russian girl would ask directly for money, but might accept some if you insisted.
There are many variations on the scams, some quite slight. Some scammers claim to have a visa already and need money for tickets, a last-minute medical examination, etcetc. Some claim that their mother needs an operation, etcetc. A few more patient and professional scammers will take months before they hit you with the money letter (though if you follow my tips, you should be able to spot the scammers before then). There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers (mostly in the Ukraine). One or two of them are very bold, and not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot, and there is no easy way to identify them, all you can do is use your instincts and common sense, and DO YOUR HOMEWORK!
and, of course, a golden rule: DON'T SEND MONEY...unless you're 100% sure she's real.
Another ground rule: if you are looking for a Russian wife/partner, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. You also need to behave generously towards her; after all, you need to prove that you can support here (and her kids) if she migrates to your country. But if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know (but I know it does happen), you should try to be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.
There are actually hundreds of perfectly nice Russian girls in Russia but you have to be prepared to go and get them. Chercher la femme. It certainly worked for me.
Ok he is in Ghana...Accra..a civil engineer,Johnny Wood....using firstname.lastname@example.org got to know him from the site WAYN (where are you now) to me when I went here I was not looking for love...just knowledge about places to travel when the opportunity came for me to do so. Now when I think of the photo..(.I deleted all of them when I got mad the first time) I felt something was not feeling right but gave in to the emotion of love..my soul mate..sso on and on.. He has a contract with World Bank to improve the water systems ...when it was time for him to get paid problems came up. He said the government is crooked and contractors before him did not finish work before him correctly leaving him to straighten it all. He has invested alot of his own money to correct much that had to be done and he wants to get what i due to him in payment. This internal revenue payment is another hold up..he has to pay the $5500. He makes calls to all people important to help get this money. He goes to appointments for meetings on all this . I told him why can't you get a job in the mean while to get this money for payment. He says no one will hire him... I said all these important people you know and no one will hire you?
I've sent alot money to him...money from my 401K..now all gone.. and I have to pay the irs the penalty for doing this....$10,000. I've pawn jewelry to get money for him..it is all nuts now that I did this but it was like I was in some kind of fog and seeing a Dr. Phil eposode on this got me to look more into internet scammers...now coming out some of this fog I can see a little more clearly and it is shocking and scary.
I have checked all the pages here of what I remember of him to find on here but I found nothing so please if there is anything on this man let me know. Oh he says for his security he stays in different hotels cos he has been rob...How is it possible for him to run up charges to stay at many various hotels telling them they will get paid when he gets paid?
The last thing he asked of me is to purchase a VPN for him..information he needs to get paid this VPN will help and the crookiness he has to deal with in all this..he needs this to aid him to get paid. I did not do this. Like everyone else you just want to know all you get to know on this person you beleived was the love of your life.. Nuts now to how you even thought this way in the first place but it happened.
gethimfromyou from United States
If this man I've known from online a year and a half now, is not on here to be found as a scammer could it be he is not to be one. He is in Accra,Ghana...big problem in getting the amount due to him getting paid as a civil engineer. Y es claimed to love me soon after getting to know each other but I loved him too. He asked for money a month after meeting...backed off some but came on strong and ssaid he did not want to loose me loved me so much. Beleived all he said to me but more than anything now I've got to know if he is all he said is true. His name is Johnny Wood...email is email@example.com
gethimfromyou from United States
It is not internal revenue....it is inland revenue...guess it is much like our irs...does anyone know what inland revenue has to do with civil engineeres...I've googled it and like i said much like the irs but would this hold anyone up if not paid to get back to the US?
This scammer goes by the name Fatima Iddrisu from Accra, Ghana
Miss Marple from United States
I am sorry that you are scammmed like this and anything the scammer has told you should not to be trusted at all. Scammers lies all the time to people to scam them out of money.Whatever the scammer has told you is just lies! Photos and names are created only to scam with so no real names or photos are used by scammers and thats for very difficult to catch online scammers. You need to cease all connections with this scammer and that means not answer phone calls,reply mails and not even read mails sent from the scammer. I suspect there are several scammers involved in this scam which is very common that West-African scammers do when operating on victims that has started to send money to the scammer. I have a thread created on the section for male scammers on this site where you can also post on. Link below. You are asking this in your post here:
I've googled it and like i said much like the irs but would this hold anyone up if not paid to get back to the US?
This is only scammers stories and the scammer is in Ghana where he is doing the scams from and has never been in this country at all. This is a very typical scammer scenario with the white male that is an engineer from US or UK who travels to Africa for work and end up getting robbed and then asks for money. Please for your own sake cut connections to the scammer and do not tell the scammer what you know or where he is reported as scam.
I know I'm being scamed.my question,is it this person that's doing the scaming. I have more pictures of her. When I checked this site out ,my heart almost droped when I saw her picture. Whoever scamed me got me for over two grand. She goes by the name of maryann tyler. .
Yes, the scammer is Angela Hills Fannor. Met her on match.com and she fell for me. Yes I gave her money and now she wants money for her Passport. She lives in Accra, Ghana. Guys don't fall for her. Because she says she's a true and right woman for me. Don't Believe It! I notified my local Police department and I filled a FBI File. Get Her anyone. She's a scam and con artist
anonymous from Canada
I know this girl as maryann tyler. She had me send money to ohio at first,under the name of luis arce. Said she couldn't pick it up herself,said her I'd was out dated,said he was her sis,s husband. Said her sis,s name was juan. Its a long story. But she ended up in lagos Nigeria,at this cheap hotel. Said she was there to get her fathers legacy. I sent money there by money gram under the name of raymond Timothy UKE. Anyway I guess the jokes on me. For anyone that's fallen in love with this beautiful girls picture,Well my heart goes out to you. It was good while it lasted Hey guys. P.S.,If she really is a porn star please let me know where to find her. Would love to see this beautiful ladys u know what. That would be worth the 2500 I sent.
anonymous from Canada
M3yann tyler referring to wendy lbrahim
anonymous from United States
I was on fortunate to find out that this person is a scammer he/she who knows using these pictures with many different profiles names and everything else luckily I did my research and I did not get scanned I would like to somehow catch this person and I have the ability to because she does not know I know or he or whatever if I can be of any help contact me